Hes got like frog warts on his face. CINDY (cont. Mr Hoage said the woman was among cases of unidentified and missing people that were being reviewed by the center, with authorities receiving permission for the exhumation, the day before Hansen died. John Paulson. FLOTHE: And did you pick an individual out that was Required fields are marked *. (pause) CINDY: No. FLOTHE: Like this? This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. In this installment, Cindy provides additional information about how she met and ended up with Robert Hansen. On his terms. Was it important for you to give the victims a voice in this film? Thats what it takes for teams to bring their best selves to work every day.. With a cut in the back. Uh huh. We deserve to identify ourselves and our many pieces, both personally and professionally. Lemon Creek Superintendent Dan Carothers called it "the bust of the decade" for Alaska prison officials. FLOTHE: Horns? CINDY: Looked kinda like this, with a really long barrel. The security guard had came up I dont know if I was in the back laying down when he [the security guard] did. CINDY: It was probably about a 72, cream-colored Datsun, with a kinda station wagon in the back, the kind that you used to It was about a 72 or 73. Buck teeth. CINDY: Like a new Seville. There was also a collection of newspaper articles about the killer and his missing victims, and a map with little X marks all over it which indicated where hed dumped his victims. But he had brown socks on. I was going through those emotions and seeing the same things. If Im unsure of something, I promise to tell you, and yall the dates in this case about drove me nuts. FLOTHE: OK. And when he pulled up, did you just go get in the car, or did you talk to him My wife and family were down in Arkansas visiting her folks places and, um, I had met her the first time up town. Do you know your way around town well, or why did you happen to remember so well where it was at? I think before you mentioned something being on the roof of the house. A metallic green Buick Century. FLOTHE: So if youre unsure about something (Cindy coughs) just tell me, all right? FLOTHE: OK. Hansens House, Old Harbor Road (copyright Leland E. Hale). FLOTHE: Did he point the gun at you at any time? Scott did an amazing job at keeping a very steady uproar and pace. We must step back and reflect to see new opportunities for growth. What was it like working with Nicolas Cage and John Cusack? And he had pulled out his wallet and showed me a whole bunch of money Police suspected the real death toll was even higher. CINDY: Yep. Robert thoroughly enjoyed hunting humans; these ladies were savagely murdered with his favorite weapons: a Ruger Mini-14 and a hunting knife. Hansens Truck & Datsun Close-up (copyright Leland E. Hale). You enjoy my work and would like to read exclusive articles, you can join my Patreon for as little as $3! I can tell you (inaudible) I can describe the plane to you. Uh, FR: Would it have been during the time when your wife and children were out of. FLOTHE: This car that was in the driveway how new or old was this car? And he had cuffed one of my hands, and I was trying to get loose and he pulled out a gun. Your email address will not be published. CINDY: In jeans. You can listen to the podcast of this interview here. Were the lights on or off? "We nabbed him before he could do any damage to anyone.". (Sound of pages turning. Wanted to put some distance between them, in time and space, just in case somebody had seen them together. What did you learn from them? CINDY: Yes, directly. We all have the same needs. Hansen served time briefly at Lemon Creek Correctional Center in Juneau until authorities found escape plans stashed among his belongings and sent him to Seward, officials said at the time. Youve taken on some very interesting, challenging roles lately in different genres like this film and also Gimme Shelter. On the floor instead there was an airplane seat. The woman, who was. Glenn Flothe, AST. This is Sunday night or early Monday morning? FLOTHE: So he takes you to the house. So its early in the morning Now, from reading your report apparently you had a pretty good description of the house that you gave the police. He was right to worry, state officials later said. You know, I was supposed to meet him. Normally, people try avoiding that. On June 13, 1983, Cindy Paulson was kidnapped and raped, her life threatened by Robert Hansen. John A. Paulson founded Paulson & Co., an investment management firm based in New York. CINDY: He said that he would like to have some company. What made you want to do it? FLOTHE: Did you give him the room number too? [Installment Three]. I always wanted to do dramas. Its way down on the bottom. Several months later, police with search warrants went through Hansen's home, finding enough evidence to eventually charge him with four murders. With a wood handle. He doesnt mess around. CINDY: Um, he had me chained around my neck for a time. Hudgens: I thought it was pretty spot on. I think it will be a fun change of pace for me. She left the ADN in October 2018. As part of his plea deal, Hansen agreed to help authorities find the graves of the murdered women. In order to keep their witness close, the state trooper and his wife befriended the young survivor, then Glenn reached out to the FBI. A one-stop-shop for all things video games. Purchase Butcher, Baker, Your email address will not be published. or debate this issue live on our message boards. And, uh, I called back to her the next the next day or some oth or day or two afterwards. Roberts first kill is either believed to have occurred in 1971, 1972, or 1973. My dream is to purchasing what I need to get that YouTube/patreon off the ground. Is this part of a deliberate strategy to develop further as an actress and put the High School 3 image behind? And um, after he had got the condom on, I kept doing it, and then he kept feeling around my neck, like he was just trippin, playing around with my neck and my necklaces. Im not correct on the times, OK? He offered me $200 for a blowjob in the car, cause I wouldnt go to his place. It had a long barrel. Im just following my gut, and if its speaking to me, then Im doing it. CINDY: I could say the time but it may not be the correct one. (pause) When did you first see this man, Cindy? FLOTHE: Thank you. Ducks and birds. CINDY: OK. FLOTHE: I wanna show you six pictures, Cindy, and the person that were talking about may or may not be in here. CINDY: No. Hansen didn't see his victims as human, the attorney said. Kidnapped: Cindy Paulson, Part II July 18, 2017 Admin Leave a comment This is Installment Two of the September 27, 1983, interview of Cindy Paulson by Sgt. And hes short. Humans could have wings, tentacles or an extra ARM 'in the next few decades' thanks to leaps in human DIY fruit and veg! I think hes such an incredible filmmaker. And he had called me and I slept through it. Profiling is really an incredible science, its amazing how even the littlest details about a killer can be told by their crimes. He takes Paulson to a hospital and her clothes are kept for a rape Kit. Hansens Den (Alaska State Troopers) Your email address will not be published. In this installment, Cindy provides additional information about how she met and ended up with Robert Hansen. Then he had got my other hand cuffed, I dont know how he did it, it was just frightening, cause I didnt really I fought, but not a lot, cause I knew he would do something. FLOTHE: Did you get into his car, or did he just get out or what? Have you heard anything about a sequel to Journey 2 The Mysterious Island? Your email address will not be published. Today, my ideas as an individual come from confidence founded on who I really am, versus the persona. Part of the Daily Mail, The Mail on Sunday & Metro Media Group. CINDY: Yep. When she made the move to California in 2001, she became more open, sharing that she was happily married to a woman who also happened to be a great cook and winemaker. Do you remember what hes driving on Friday? And, getting to that point, its so powerful, she says. All rights reserved. Its likely that it was around this time that the rapist decided that hed no longer leave behind any victims who could turn him in to the police, and that he would dispose of these women in the best way he knew how. FLOTHE: So, youre in the car and he pulls a gun out and he handcuffs you. Though he was doing so well in his new life, Roberts dark urges grew stronger by the day; he could and very often did hunt all of the Alaskan game that he liked, but each kill steadily grew less satisfying than the last. A MAJOR PHILANTHROPIST. But then also, it was not personal enough that it would come home with me and affect my sleeping. FLOTHE: Did he approach you or did you approach him? CINDY: Uh huh. Now her body has been exhumed from from the cemetery at Anchorage Memorial Park with the hope that DNA testing and facial reconstruction will lead to her being identified. It is so nice when you dont have to build a character from the ground up by yourself. The hair on the back of his neck stood up and his neck got red, and he was pissed," Rothschild said in a phone interview Thursday. CINDY: A police officer at the Sixth Avenue police department. Only 12 bodies of the 17 women Hansen confessed to killing have been found. Hudgens: I dont like talking about anything until I sign my contract, which I havent done yet, but it will happen most likely pretty soon. Kids can be so cruel; while the boys his own age poked fun of and beat on him, the girls all laughed about how ugly he was. 10,285 views Aug 26, 2013 In an up close interview, former Disney sweetheart Vanessa Hudgens shares her admiration towards serial killer Robert Hansen's surviving victim Cindy Paulson .more. Robert Hansen is probably the most prolific serial in recent Alaskan history. CINDY: Up to the house. CINDY: It was a big revolver gun, like a police gun. Order my latest book, What Happened In Craig, HERE and HERE, true crime on Epicenter Press about Alaskas Worst Unsolved Mass Murder. With his death, the full extent of Hansen's deeds, including the true number of his victims, the location of their bodies and the identities of all the women he kidnapped, raped and sometimes hunted like wild game before murdering might never be known. Too often, Robert Hansen was believed instead of the women, many of them dancers or prostitutes, who testified against him. He had rolled the window down and I opened the door and I sat down and I talked to him. Glenn Flothe, AST. The security guard at that time Despite his growing rap sheet, Hansen escaped notice when Anchorage women soon began to disappear. Can you describe that again to me, Cindy? CINDY: Its blue with a big ol picture window and the whole house is If you drive down Old Harbor Road, the windows on the right side and the garage is to the left. Join Facebook to connect with Cindy Paulson and others you may know. This is a very intense film. CINDY: Um hmm. The one person who really seemed to have believed Cindy and became determined to stop this killer was a state trooper by the name of Glenn Flothe. Robert Christian Hansen (the Butcher Baker) and the Delphi Murde Cindy . And he said well he was gonna start getting his moneys worth. The Butcher Baker passed away of natural causes in August of 2014, he lived to be 75 years old. Roberts father, an overbearing man who never did care to have a decent relationship with his son, expected young Robert to be busy at work in the familys bakery whenever he wasnt in school. CINDY: Um hmm. Vanessa Hudgens: I was a little bit shaken up that this guy who was well respected in the neighborhood and everyone knew as the family man could have done such atrocious and heinous crimes. Interview with Cindy Morgan DontHateTheGeek 2.2K views 10 years ago Whiplash Final Scene - Andrew Neyman's Performance Awais Irfan 14M views 7 years ago Ned Lightner 52K views 9 years ago The. In 2007 his multi-billion payoff shorting the overheated U.S. housing market made him a global industry superstar. In 1984 this serial was sentenced to 461 years, a ridiculous amount of years to ensure that he would never be released again. FLOTHE: He had an automatic garage door opener? This looks black but its actually blue. And he said well he was gonna start getting his moneys worth. (Cindy Paulson), Cindy Paulson He had already tortured and raped her, and she was still handcuffed when she ran from his car to flag down passing traffic. Others have never been found. FLOTHE: Can you describe it a little bit more to me? It seems most likely that he was arrested for the sexual assaults in December of 71, remained in trouble with the law (he served a short prison sentence) throughout 72, and probably started killing after his release. Cause that was the smallest he had. Dr. Cindy Paulson, senior vice president and Brown and Caldwell's Chief Technical Officer, is responsible for advancing the company's technical strategy from innovation to talent development and quality delivery. We just want her to be identified.'. CINDY: On Fourth and Denali. And then up here on my hand, right in the middle. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. And she, uh, cant remember if she wasnt there or she couldnt couldt meet me. About four stairs to get into the house. And who showed you those pictures? FLOTHE: When did he tell you this? to start my podcast and YouTube channel. In this installment, Cindy talks about and proves her observational powers, in this case related to Robert Hansens house on Old Harbor Road. FLOTHE: How about the glasses? FLOTHE: OK. Where were you at when you saw him on a Friday? FLOTHE: Friday morning. CINDY: The Buick car, inside the garage. FLOTHE: How did he get in? "I can still see him when he got livid like that," he said. He was afraid of running into friends, relatives or acquaintances of people who knew his many victims. Brown shoes. CINDY: Uh huh. "You could hear him screaming at his lawyers," Rothschild said. *Though its not super graphic or bloody, this article does contain a couple of images of the killer posing with hunted game animals. You mentioned a minute ago, Cindy, that he wanted you to go home with him, or something, and you didnt want to go home with him, or Cindy Paulson Interview with Sgt. There was a bullet hole in the floor. (pause) (inaudible) The horns that were up there, the big ol antler horns, theyre called. It was very, very eerie and really tough, but John (Cusack) was great. Its a over shirt. And if Im not mistaken I think he had a green or a light t-shirt underneath it. CINDY: Bob and then Don. It was Don, and then OK, it was Don and then after we were at his place, and he was going to take me to the airport, he was saying about Bob. This is Installment Three of the September 27, 1983, interview of Cindy Paulson by Sgt. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Copyright 2023 Butcher Baker Primer WordPress theme by. Im sorry I dont remember the right dates and so forth. In the 1960s he moved to Anchorage and opened a bakery of his own in a strip mall at Ninth Avenue and Ingra Street. I said, no, we can go to my place. He said, no, he didnt want to. Thats why he did it. Investigators have said that in some instances Hansen would rape the women but return them to Anchorage, warning them not to contact authorities. Instead he would immediately force her to board his small bush plane, and hed fly her out to a desolate area near Knik River where he would sexually assault her in a little shack which hed occupied there. We recently landed an exclusive interview with Hudgens who talked about her reaction when she first read the script, how meeting the real Cindy Paulson helped inform her portrayal of the character, why it was important to her that audiences see Paulson as a real human being and not a stereotype, what she learned from working with experienced actors like Cage and Cusack who inspired her performance, how Walkers enthusiasm and energy kept the atmosphere on set upbeat despite the dark subject matter, and what she discovered about herself in the process of making the film. Hudgens: I wanted her to be a normal teenage girl. When I read it, I saw it as a character development project, but seeing it overall pulled it all in together. When police were able to interview her, she explained her grizzly tale in detail. Im not going to help you do that, all right? FLOTHE: Would you draw me a diagram of the house and Ill turn the tape off just for a minute while youre doing that. It was plain. I was just I was hysterical and shocked, didnt know what to do, he was chasing after me with a gun. When his wife, Darla Marie Henrichsen Hensen, and their children were home (they visited family in Arkansas quite often) its believed that Robert would simply skip taking his victim home altogether. As broad as that seems, its kind of the plan. FLOTHE: The same car as on Friday? CINDY: Um hmm. Hansen was convicted in 1984 after confessing to killing 17 women, mostly dancers and prostitutes, during a 12-year span in the 1970s and 80s. Just him by himself. Darla eventually obtained a teaching job in Russia, and as far as I can tell she remains there today: the kids made lives for themselves somewhere in the American Midwest. Vanessa Hudgens Talks THE FROZEN GROUND, Meeting the Real Cindy Paulson, MACHETE KILLS, GIMME SHELTER, and THE KITCHEN SINK. His alibi - two friends - also admitted they had been lying. 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