We reached out to leaders at FBC Naples about a dozen times, seeking evidence for the racism charge, as well as comment on other issues at the church, but no one responded. Soon, one way or another there will be a woke pastor in the pulpit of FBCN. Been here 25+ times. Not lies. Food. The congregation must find a way to publicly be able to bring Hayes Wicker and his family back into this fellowship as loved and former members. I am sickened by the way he was treated and am grateful for this exposure. It provides an identity for its most passionate acolytes. Grocery. Did people voice concerns and questions about Marcus? The Asbury Revival Is Over. But while we cannot know the heart of another, this doesnt sound like a case of hearts poisoned intolerance, of minds clouded by prejudice. He hopes If it can happen at FBC Naples, it can happen anywhere. We live in UK now as did Naples Baptist 1st Associate Minisiter but come to Naples Baptist every Dec/Jan. 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FBC Naples also sent several cease and desist letters from prominent law firm, Holland & Knight, to several church members suspected of having involvement with the Voices of FBCN email. All of the events need to be understood in the context of the overriding event and the church governance that permitted this to happen. From the reporting in this article, it seems clear that more light needs to be shed on events. With two young children at home, she dedicated her time to being a stay at home mom until 2007 when the Lord opened the door for her to be a preschool teacher at First Baptist Academy in Naples. Quite the contrary the creedal history of the church was arguably constructed to exclude precisely the kind of views that were being espoused. This is a warning to all Southern Baptists. Read: Police release name of cop who killed black security guard who was corralling a gunman, Hayes quote-tweeted a November 2018 tweet by an attorney who represented Roberson's family after the fatal shooting. *I use scare quotes because the Woke phenom is only relevant in a certain context: it is very Americentric (talking like all white people are the same, for example), and not culturally or ethnically sensitive at all when on looks at the ethnic makeup of the church IN OTHER COUNTRIES. According to sources, Wicker wanted a long period of transition to the new leadership, with even an overlap to help the transition process. When I look at Jesus and his disciples I do not see anything that looks as atrocious as this mess. Church leadership responded in an email to members, calling the Voices of FBCNs email inaccurate and slanderous and claiming that a security breach of the churchs email list had occurred. ", "After reviewing a little deeper we find that "social justice" and racial inequality appear to be his priority as it pertains to the church and ministry!" Shopping. Wicker said several weeks later, the church emailed him, stating that Wicker had facilitated and cooperated with a rival faction in the church, which voided his exit agreement. However, he stated, In the 22 years I was there (FBC Naples), I never heard a racist commentever. Caudill added that Dorrill advised Caudill that any pastoral candidates suggested by Wicker would be dead on arrival., In the months leading up to Wickers resignation, the church hired Auxano, a church consulting company, to advise the church on the pastoral transition process. Giving. Who Will Pay for the SBCs Abuse Reforms Over the Long Term? ", When asked during the Q&A session whether he considers himself a conservative, Hayes said he is "as conservative as they come.". *Please note that the preceding is my personal opinion. In June, Voices of FBCN sent an email to many in the church, criticizing the actions of church leadership. I do not intend to allow blackmail to prevail at this point and would hope that you would support me. He didnt have the experience. What does this say about Big Eva? Takeaway: The treatment of the retiring pastor at FBC Naples is eerily similar to the treatment of the retiring pastor at McLean Bible Church. Edie, the church's executive pastor, however, called Hayes "one of the most qualified men in Southern Baptist life to be a Senior Pastor of any church in this country.". . The First Naples School of Worship Arts exists to develop Christ-honoring worshipers through quality instruction for the purpose of exalting the Lord with their God-given talents and abilities. Ricardo Barbosa December 25, 2014. And it is must never be carried out with retribution in mind, but always with the hope of restoration. But what was concluded was that all things were not fair nor were they right. We reached out to Phillips Harvey Group and FBC Naples to confirm, but they did not respond. We are so glad you've chosen to join us. "A portion of the 19% that voted against Marcus Hayes did so based on racial prejudices," Executive Pastor John D. Edie wrote in an Oct. 31 letter to the Southern Baptist Convention. Just because no one blatantly used a racial slur or expressed overtly racist statements does not mean that racism was not expressed or used during the selection process. Curious timing of raising those concerns. Garippa, who was never part of Concerned Members of FBCN, declined to comment on why he left FBC Naples. The power plays, ego trippin (yes, I did say trippin), greed, pride, etc., has been going on throughout church history. Church leadership announced that a new senior pastor was not hired because the nominee failed to meet the 85% approval threshold. Nothing new in this article. I lived it. Our leadership has gone astray, I fear, and those who find the courage to stand up to them have targets on their backs. This is a demonstration of holding a form of godliness, but having denied the power thereof. And Paul goes on to say So, Turn away from these, also. I am Caucasian from Eastern Europe. Until this happens FBCN will be a former great ministry. Of course they did. (Auxanos founder, Will Mancini, also serves as director of consulting for Lifeway, the publishing division of the SBC.). I left the church. More than 450 emails in support of Hayes were received by the church in the past four days, Dorrill said during the Nov. 2 service. First Naples glorifies God by being a multigenerational, multiethnic, multiplying church. It does not suddenly make a point valid or invalid. Ungodly treatment of a Godly man and his entire family, not to mention those whose leadership and dedication to the Lord was well-known and long-standing. The turmoil at FBC Naples began about a year ago, when longtime Senior Pastor Hayes Wicker announced to the church that he was stepping down to make way for younger fresher leadership.. (The video is now private and requires a password to view.). Photos See More Hours Mon: 8am - 5pm Tue: 8am - 5pm Wed: 8am - 5pm Thu: 8am - 5pm Fri: 8am - 5pm I certainly agree with you wholeheartedly, Grant. First Baptist Church Naples, she said,"is not a racist church by any stretch of the imagination. Opinion: What is Revivaland is it Happening at Asbury? Wicker said Dorrill banned him from pastoral search team meetings, and the chairmen of the personnel and finance committees told Wicker his oversight was not needed. Naples, FL, 34109 Customers Love Us "Great experience! "Unfortunately our church familys business has become fodder for spotlight-seeking bloggers and others who are commenting about Christians whom they do not know personally, and slandering a church that they know little about," Sonya Stearns, a member of the church, said in an email to the Daily News. ".for my house will be called a house of prayer for all nations." Isaiah 56:7 Need Prayer? I think there were people in the church who were afraid of having a black pastor, especially one who does not subscribe to the ridiculous and ungodly notion of colorblindness and one who holds the racial views that Hayes does. Hi, Carla. Leading the Q&A session, Dorrill alluded to the past year for the church, which saw its longtime senior pastor, Hayes Wicker, leave amid dissatisfaction by some church members over the circumstances of his departure. the group wrote. Enough racists voted against the pastor. Jonathan Head November 26, 2011. To donate. (Hey, and I know white people who love Woke Church!) Church leaders at First Baptist Church Naples have blasted a faction of their congregation, alleging "racial prejudices" contributed to a failed vote late last month to name a black man. SUNDAY, Dec 11 (7pm) Two days after the meeting with Pastor Edie and Chairmen Boone and Collier, Wicker said he was told to vacate church premises immediately. Doesnt matter what denomination or race you are, all of this drama is toxic on a nuclear level for the body and spirit and surely the work of Satan himself. JD Greear and his woke cronies attempted a coup at FBC Naples and were thwarted on a grand level. @DooWopCokeFan Please try to understand something: NOT ALL BLACK PEOPLE THINK ALIKE. Considering slave owners slept with slaves (even in my own ancestry), whites befriended their black help all while denying their equal rights it is possible to have friends and even spouses of other races and still have issues with bias and prejudice. The pastor was amazing, the atmosphere electrifying, we had fallen in love with the pastor. Masters of Divinity in Christian Apologetics, New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary Instead, Wicker was quickly forced out. No, Again. At Berean Baptist Church, we have one message-the message of the Lord Jesus Christ, and one ministry-the ministry He has given us to go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. Member of the Evangelical Theological Society Blake Crawford and former deacon, Mike Dolan, said they were also suspended around that time. Yet Wicker said that without his approval or prior knowledge, a statement read by Boone was inserted at the beginning of the video, saying that Wicker had confessed to misuses of power and actions unbecoming of a Senior Pastor. This statement was also emailed to church members on May 23. In fact, concerned church members have come forward to reveal the questions and concerns they had about the nominee. I'm New. Select the event you would like to attend below: FRIDAY, Dec 9 (7pm) NO RESERVATIONS AVAILABLE. The church leadership released a statement explaining how the church membership wasnt supposed to vote their conscience, but rather rubberstamp the search committees recommendation: As most of you know, in Southern Baptist life,when a Senior Pastor comes in view of a call by the recommendation of a Search Committee, the actual vote is most always viewed as a ceremonial and celebratory affirmation of the Spirits leading within the hearts and minds of the Search Committee that has extended the call. Bunch of old white guys with too much time on their hands and too many books in their personal theology libraries. Hotels. He didnt rob a liquor store, assault some young person in his office, or do anything wrong that could be cited. We recall the old Church too. First Baptist Naples is, ethnically, a predominantly white church but we are not a racist church.. Doesnt the Holy Spirit operate in us as individuals? He said the church was hopeful that Hayes would allow his name to be reconsidered as the church's next senior pastor or interim pastor. **Statements about the actions taken by FBC Naples leadership assume the fidelity of Pulpit & Pens inside source. On Easter weekend, Wicker said he received a text message that several chairmen wanted to meet with him about church unrest. Wicker said he tried to ignore it. Why not make an issue of Dorrills past before Hayes confirmation vote? Hi. The campaign, he said in an email to the Daily News, consisted of social media, texting, phone calls and a series of emails. So is my wife. The judge in the case withheld a conviction but gave Dorrill a $10,000 fine and three years probation. The situation at FBC Naples should serve as a solemn reminder to church members everywhere to ensure that their by-laws provide church members biblical protections from rogue staff members who would seek to dominate their church. And they said, Surely, you will not die. ", Two members of the counting committee, he said, have admitted to leaking confidential early voting results from Saturday night to a lay leader in the church "who then used that information, we believe, to compromise the process.". "Marcus Hayes, a highly respected and a well-qualified pastor, remains the man that we believe God has called to be our next pastor," Dorrill said to a standing ovation from the congregation. Sadly, friction in the pastoral transition at FBC Naples has been present from the outset. I would know. My heart goes out to his family. At least four emails were "broadly sent," he wrote, with others privately sent. Racism had Nothing to do with voting!It had to do with biblical principals that many questioned ( CRT, SJM, "Woke" Church). What they did to Rev Wicker and his Godly family is nothing but sinful. These included a lack of transparency at the church, absence of vetted elders, and the public maligning of former longtime pastor, Hayes Wicker. Gretchen Church, who said on Twitter that she has been a member of First Baptistfor more than 17 years, tweeted that racism had nothing to do with voting. And second, Mr. Hayes did nothing to convince me that he would embrace me as a disgraced member of the church. 3000 Orange Blossom Drive, Naples, FL 34109, U.S. action has been taken to enact church discipline on the dissenters because of Ive already been excommunicated and humiliated. Well-sourced. However, no one even begins to acknowledge that this system is the product of Hayes ministry. Yet Caudill said that when he spoke up in meetings, the 79-year-old deacon was deemed divisive.. More bluntly What have we done? . The film makes note that Marcus Hayes was subsequently ramrodded in Crossroads Church Texas. Even Jesus said so much when he talked a man who started building a tower without counting the cost. Just fill out this form and let us know your needs. Wicker spent 27 years as pastor of First Baptist Church of Naples. concerned with factors other than racism, such as Marcus Hayes He and his wife and his children love God and Gods people. First, there are blacks who strenuously object to books like Woke Church, as well as intersectionality, and reparations for slavery. The views expressed in any video or live stream presented on our website may not necessarily be the views of the CWM owners and staff. ", CONSIDER SUBSCRIBING TODAY: Help support local journalism, More: Read the letter from First Baptist to church members regarding voting results, In a letter to church membersshortly after the failed vote, the church pointed the finger at groupscalled "Voices of FBCN" and"Group of Concerned FBCN Members.". Instead of the transition period Wicker announced, the staff strong-armed Wicker out after over a quarter of a century of service to the people of FBC Naples, sources told the Capstone Report. We were on cloud nine. The GRAND OLD STANDARD, the Baptist Faith and the Message, swallowed up by an effective indoctrination of the Faithful by the Left. And as of March 1, the churchs $14 million budget had a shortfall of $1.2 million. However, at some point the church leadership became hostile to the longtime pastor, according to church members. Wicker said he was shocked by the accusations, but instead of fighting, he tendered his resignation. Hayes Wicker was the pastor of First Baptist Church of Naples (Florida) for 27 years. ", Church officials, however, have been largely mum on the details of the alleged campaign and racism. I read about this over at The Wartburg Watch. If there is any racism its from Pastor Hayes and his endorsement of Woke Movement. Find more information about the groups that meet throughout the week by clicking below. "Misinformation, fear, and ignorance of social media platforms played a role in the voting, and we, as a church family, are dealing with those issues.". Pastor John David Edie, who wrote the open letter to the SBC on behalf of leaders at FBC Naples, alleging racism, resigned in early December. You may recall this line from his I have a dream speech: I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character. I believe Dr. King was right. Generally, at Southern Baptist churches incoming pastors are approved by a majority of the church body upon recommendation from an elected search committee and/or pastoral staff, Stearns wrote. "It seems all cops ever see is black," the attorney continued. is a pastoral search committee? In November, just weeks after the church excommunicated 18 members, John Garippa, a longtime FBC Naples member who led two popular Bible Studies at FBC Naples, left the church. The shooting drew national headlines, outrage and questions about whether race factored into the officers decision to open fire. Our warfare is not against flesh and blood (Ephesians 6:12); and our duty as ambassadors does not permit us to compromise or align ourselves with any kind of human philosophies, religious deceit, or any other kind of falsehood (Colossians 2:8). In the spring of 1945, Reverend Joseph Engel, his wife and young son were sent by the Brookdale Baptist Church of Bloomfield, New Jersey to plant new churches in South Florida. United States ", "While racial issues were brought into play, and horrifically there indeed were some who did not approve Rev. It also noted that Hayes didnt meet the criteria members had stated for the next senior pastorthat he have five years of experience as a senior pastor. close to Wicker, contacted Pulpit & Pen with disturbing details Greear, who had written a letter of recommendation for Marcus Hayes, called the open letter by FBC Naples leadership a bold, Gospel-faithful response of the leadership of FBC Naples. Greear added, Let us be united in lament that any vestige of this kind of sinful prejudice remains in our churches., Also, Danny Akin, president of SBC-affiliated Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary (SEBTS), described the open letter as a strong and redemptive word from FBC Naples.. I know that can seem like a simple concept, but it seems to be forgotten when the well a black person disagrees with it! argument is used. He nevertheless urged them to contend earnestly for the faith against all falsehood, while doing everything possible to deliver souls from destruction: snatching them out of the fire . You would call Martin Luther King an Uncle Tom Im sure. They have been in my heart and prayers since this happened. Wicker, a former President of the Florida Baptist Convention and the SBC Pastors Conference, was such a high-profile leader and fundraiser for Baptist causes that his retirement was covered by Baptist Press, which reported the following on February 4th: In mid-January, Wicker, 68, Catholic Idolaters Claim to Find St. Peters BonesAgain. Our church voted by a percentage of 81 % to bring Marcus Hayes as our next Pastor. 1/2: 17+yr member of FBCN and attendee here! I was preparing to speak before the largest crowd we would ever have, he said. Wicker called the allegations appalling., We reached out to Boone, specifically asking about the allegations mentioned in the video, but he did not respond. If this were a Calvary Chapel organization, or any other offshoot of Chuck Smiths piracy, no one would be surprised. Sandra received her Bachelor's degree in Elementary Education from our local college, Florida Gulfcoast University in 2001. Stop reading things into what a person says or writes (Im sure you will do this to me) as being racist. 1-877-582-9246. . The 26-year-old guard, Jemel Roberson, was detaining a suspected gunman who opened fire at the bar where Roberson worked when the police officer fatally shot Roberson. "We all realize that the year of 2019 has been very difficult in the life of our church," Dorrill said. One screenshot of a tweet included in the email centers around the fatal shooting of a black security guard by a white police officer in suburban Chicago last year. The FBC Naples leaders vowed to deal with this sinful cancer and added that church discipline had already started. Again, more lies and half-truths. "There are no terms to describe what has happened here other than sin. Their considerations related to legitimate theological, moral, and political issues. To donate, click here. Sylee Gibson, an excommunicated member who works in law enforcement, added that the man chairing the FBC Naples senior pastor search team is a Florida businessman with a checkered pastNeil Dorrill. Several"inappropriate emails" were sent to Hayes' home church in North Carolina, including to his ministry assistant and his boss, the senior pastor there, "sharing and establishing that certain groups will not vote for him this weekend without a private meeting in advance to have issues of theirs addressed," Dorrill said at the Oct. 24 event. Regardless of what specific concerns were held, its important to know that 1) no evidence of genuine racism on the part of those holding them has surfaced, and 2) the efforts these members made to ask questions and express reservations were not taken seriously. The Roys Report seeks to foster thoughtful and respectful dialogue. Almost unbelievable saga of incompetence. Yet despite all thats happened, Wicker said, I pray people would not use this to come against megachurches or seeing all committees as bad., Similarly, Caudill stated, First Baptist Naples still has potential to be used greatly by God. The search for a senior pastor continues, with Dorrill leading the search committee. Need to read the book by Shelby Steele White Guilt where he lays out perfectly the Marist agenda going on. Last fall, First Baptist Church (FBC) Naplesa prominent Southern Baptist megachurch in southwest Floridamade national headlines for rejecting an African American pastoral candidate because of some alleged racist members. The churchs FBCNaples | Naples FL to affirm of Wickers intended replacement, Marcs Hayes. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. JUST STOP THE HATE. "And, as a result of that, there have been groups who honestly feel a little disenfranchised. Thank you. So very sorry, but not everything is about race and not everyone is a racist. Church leaders have alleged that race played a role in the failed vote to affirm Hayes, causing a firestorm of heated discussion on social media and spawning posts by religious websites and blogs. Jonathan Head November 26, 2011. And guess what? Since the failed vote, other allegations have surfaced. Jude certainly understood this. FBC Naples, recently listed as the 64th largest SBC church in the country, appears to be withering in the wake of the scandal. I just want to point out that when you say things like I am in a biracial marriage, it sounds a LOT like I have a black friend. Trust me, that gets you little more than eye-rolling. So sick of this hate and evil which is exactly what this all is. I also find it interesting that Dorrills past financial misdeeds didnt seem to be a problem for the dissenters until the Hayes vetting process. And this statement was made by an African American pastor on Moody Radio. Yet Easter services would be the last time Wicker would preach at FBC Naples. And thats shepherding many hundreds of people over many years., In its open letter to the SBC, FBC Naples lay leaders and staff wrote that they know racial prejudice contributed to Marcus Hayess failed vote because of the campaign that started just days before by a few disgruntled people in our church., Presumably, the campaign to which the letter is referring is an email that was sent from the Concerned Members to those who had signed the petition shortly before the Hayes vote, requesting a special business meeting. At the same time, some members were concerned about some of his social media posts that might indicate support for a pro-abortion, pro-LGBTQ Democrat presidential candidate, his endorsement of the problematic book Woke Church, his blocking some FBCN members on his social media platforms, and other theological, political, and administrative issues. More Emails: FBC Naples Concerned Party Defends Itself Against Accusations of Racism, VIDEO: A look at the problems at FBC Naples, FBC Naples Insider Speaks Out About Alleged Racism and Unbiblical Excommunications at FBC Naples, Leaked Emails Show That FBC Naples Members Had Serious Concerns About Marcus Hayes Biblical Qualifications. First Baptist Naples has a byzantine process that allows the pastoral staff to recommend to the deacons the expulsion of a member. Exactly right. Also concerning to the group was the fact that Marcus Hayes didnt respond to a letter Concerned Members of FBCN had sent him a week earlier, outlining their issues at the church. I voted no to Mr. Hayes for two reasons. Publisher Log-in I actually want you to see me as a black woman, because that has shaped my experiences in life how people have reacted to me, treated me, etc. We are simultaneously soldiers, commissioned to wage war for the defense and dissemination of the truth in the face of countless onslaughts against it. But the uniform refusal to comment from the church leadership is suspicious. Roku Live Streaming, Copyright 2023 ITP Productions, Inc. dba ChristianWorldMedia.com, All Rights Reserved, Welcome to First Naples! The removal of the original pastor and his ENTIRE family, the threats to members from a law firm, and the mere fact that they were not abiding by their own by-laws are just a few of the issues going on. We are frankly disappointed that no resolution is making it impossible as at now for all the lovely folks within Naples to move forward. We likewise contacted SBC President J.D. I guess thats why this slanderous information is labeled as commentary. Its no wonder why real born again, followers of the Lord Jesus Christ are walking away from churches, not the body of our Lord Jesus, the Ekklesia, but from this mess we call church. this approach to transition can become a helpful model for other churches.. Now, church members who have been removed from membership over their opposition to the appointment of Marcus Hayes are in fear that they may be unable to witness their children graduate. (The church publishes an annual directory with member email addresses.). Some of these blacks are church leaders. Give Online Mission Trips Serve at First Naples Connect With Us Need Prayer? Thats why its so harmful to the church; its born of and encourages the myopic tendencies of American evangelicalism. This sort of trashing of fine people is becoming commonplace is an SBC I was once very happy to be a part of. Also, the concept of colorblindness is nice in theory but is biologically impossible (unless you are colorblind). Im too far away to comment on the specific allegations, but whatever the truth of each, its pretty clear that youve got at least two strong factions in church leadership, and possibly also the church as a whole, which need to have a come to Jesus moment in terms of this is how you do, and this is how you do not do, ministry., The utter disrespect shown previous Pastor Wicker is atrocious and unchristian to say the least. We met his wife and daughters. Former deacon, Blake Crawford, said Wicker was later exonerated of the charges in the anonymous letter by church accounting firm, Phillips Harvey Group. I just wish so many from my former church would open their eyes and see whats going on. Only love. Takeaway: So much for a democracy. And because it promises rewards to individuals and organizations influence, students, platform it is both very hard to criticize and functionally unaccountable to any but its own. No, Again. The message at FBCN is clear: get along or get out. He shared some examples, including one from a woman who said the church had failed to check Hayes' Twitter account and called him a "radical leftist. Pastor Hayes is the Pastor. Any copyrighted material displayed or referenced is done under the doctrine of fair use. Garippa said The Naples Gathering has 350 to 400 people attending, 85-percent of whom are former FBC Naples members. The Story Of First Baptist Church Naples is disturbing and alarming, but it is meant to be an inspiration. Does my agreement with Dr. King and my deep concerns about intersectionality, et al, make me a racist? 3000 Orange Blossom Drive, Naples, FL 34109, U.S. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of "Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse" by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. No church creed has ever taught the nonsense that had become so pervasive in evangelicalism. Yet, thats what multiple sources have alleged is happening to them. 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