by Longcolt44 Tue Jun 16, 2020 6:33 pm, Post 30), and Greece ( M1895). - Trigger guard used a mounting tool for the springs. The M1895 Nagant revolver was designed in the 1890s by Leon Nagant: that's the same Nagant name in the Westernized term "Mosin-Nagant," as he was the inventor of the M91 rifle's interrupter (and other small features). The Nagant M1895 Revolver is a seven-shot revolver designed and produced by Belgian industrialist Lon Nagant for use by the army of Tzar Nicholas II of Russia. Shooting any ammunition other than the 7.62x38mmR cartridge with the original cylinder can cause bodily injury from bullet shrapnel or escaping gas, and the excessive pressures produced by some .32 ammunition could also cause catastrophic failure of the cylinder or frame. Ideally, you should get military surplus ammo for the best performance, but with the current international situation, that may dry up quickly. This system all but eliminates the cylinder gap of other revolvers. While slower in use than swing-out models, the M.1895 is far, far more accurate than any of the inexpensive competitors in the more modern .32 calibers. If you want to buy a Nagant revolver, GunBroker.com will be your best bet. https://www.sgammo.com/product/762x38r- y-surplus-. Re: Nagant Revolver marking identification? Its got all matching . The Nagant was produced throughout the war at the Tula Arsenal, with the last one being built in 1950. I saw spam cans on sale at SG Ammo for $249.50. RUSSIAN NAGANT REVOLVER 1913. Not exactly consistent, but I looked at several tests, and with military ammo, the Nagant outperformed the .32 ACP and was comparable to the .380 ACP. The recessed bullet of the cartridge can be easily Treat it like a single action revolver and all will be well. This allows the reloaders to work up a load that fits their needs and is specific for the Nagant. 4 The cylinder does not swing out. The gun has double action capability, but thanks to way the action works, the DA trigger is truly atrocious. Pistols and Holsters. A few weeks ago I finally broke down and bought myself a M1895 Nagant Revolver to fill a gap in my collection of Former Soviet Military Pistols. Darryl Boyd 2011-2018. Some collectors items with desirable proof marks are running for over $1,000 at the time of writing this article. Most of the time when I went there, a diminutive old man named Ivan would be shooting from his ancientat least to me at the timecollection of obscure military firearms. Today in the West, the Nagant revolver is a collectors curiosity item. The picture to the right is what the sight picture of a Nagant revolver looks like if you were to shoot one. Many are in great shape, and they arent terribly expensive, even with the way MILSURPS have gone up the last ten years. Honestly, I have never seen a handgun with so many markings, and, aside from the date on the side plate, can't even guess . Numbers Number 1 -- Unknown mark Triangle 1 -- 1871st ABV Moscow Military District Triangle 1 -- 103rd GRAU Arsenal 2 -- Unknown Mark -- (martin08) 02 -- Hungarian Arsenal Mark -- (martin08) A featured contributor for Strategy & Tactics, he likes dogs, range time, and a good cigar - preferably with an Old Fashioned that has an extra orange slice. They don't have any 9 Luger or much 5.56, but you can buy a couple of hundred pounds of Nagant ammo if you so desire. Dont be turned off by the weird looking grip. OutdoorHub // TheFirearmBlog // AllOutdoor // ActionHub // AgDaily, AllOutdoor All Rights Reserved Carbon Media Group Outdoors. In 1898 space had been freed up to start production at the Tula arsenal, where they would be made until 1945 (Ishevsk put the Nagant revolver into production as well during WWII). I'll have to go with the last part of your statement since it isn't Hungarian! In the two pictures below you can see VT.". Thank you! The swing-out ejector rod was definitely a bad design, slow in use and unnecessary given the option of fixed ejector rod similar to the American Colt SAA revolver. Surplus ammo availability was limited mainly to the low-power target loads shown above. you feel there is use of a copyrighted photo, contact the owner and Most The Nagant's sealed firing system meant that the Nagant revolver, unlike most other revolvers, could make effective use of a sound suppressor, and suppressors were sometimes fitted to it.[14]. In Russian service, it was known for its extreme sturdiness and ability to withstand abuse. Sure, the Nagant had 7 shots. While functional, it loses most of the advantages of the unique Nagant design and is recommended only if proper ammunition is completely unavailable. On the left side under the Tula marks is what looks like a square with a upside down cross inside; on left side of trigger looks like a circle with a triangle inside; left side in front of the factory SN is a C. The pistol is important marked with CDI and importers SN. He is a military historian specializing in World War II and has written a few things, as he says, "here and there". SOVIET RUSSIAN NAGANT Model 1895 TULA Arsenal Revolver WWII Pre-World War 2 USSR Sidearm, Swedish Husqvarna 1887 Nagant Revolver - 7.5x22 Military - Alll Matching - Gunsmith Special, RUSSIAN WW II Soviet NAGANT Model 1895 TULA Arsenal Revolver EASTERN FRONT WORLD WAR II Nagant Revolver Made in 1941, RUSSIAN WWII Soviet NAGANT Model 1895 TULA Arsenal Revolver EASTERN FRONT INTERWAR ERA Nagant Revolver Made in 1931 w/HOLSTER, RUSSIAN NAGANT - MODEL 1895 -***EXTRAS***, Brevet Nagant M/1893 Norwegian 7.5MM made Liege Belgium, RARE RUSSIAN NAGANT REVOLVER NON IMPORT RSFSR 1921. A community dedicated to Lugers, Central Powers, Axis, Allied and related WW-I and WW-II pistols by their scholars, collectors, owners and enthusiasts. The square without a line through it indicates an early rebuild, probably before WW2. The military deemed the SA only modification necessary to keep uneducated troops from wasting ammo with too much rapid fire; a feat I would personally find impressive given the awful nature of the Nagants DA trigger. The original sights were regulated for about 25 yards. Some still are in European police forces. If without the written permission of the owner and the various site Historically, double action was an afterthought in this design, added only to the officers model. are production codes that I have no way of understanding, but the markings If you want to suppress it, youll have to do some work. If you want to buy a Nagant revolver, 1911 Sizes: Government, Commander, Officer and Defender. All photos that are not credited are property of this But in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, chamberings such as 6.5mm and 7.65 mm (.32 ACP) were very common in Europe. by mosin94 Mon Jun 15, 2020 8:10 pm, Post We all know Russian made Nagants model M1895, but Polishmade revolver Ng30 is very little known to the world, simply because very limitedamount been ever made in Poland- only about 20000 between 1930 - 37 before switching to Wz35. sections, articles, photos, or information from this site may be used However, the Nagant design did have the advantage of requiring less machining than more modern designs. by etprescottazusa91 Tue Sep 15, 2020 1:58 pm, Return to Military and Modern Hand Guns Forum, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited. ", Mosin Videos, and "How to's" (Sub-Forum). Seven Nagant revolvers were used by communist revolutionaries to execute the Russian imperial family and their servants in July 1918. . Overall length is 9.2 inches. Other Nagant revolver designs were also adopted by police and military services of Sweden (7.5mm M1887), Norway (M1893), Poland (Nagant wz. I just picked up a spam can from Classic. Here is a Swedish Husqvarna Model 1887 Nagant revolver chambered in 7.5x22 Swedish. Featured Gun Classifieds Nagant Revolvers, Tula Russian nagant 1895 7.62x 28. Some surplus loads go up to 109gr and nearly 1300fps, though that may be from improper storage and resulting overpressure. Loaded with a deeply recessed bullet, is was typically made with non-reloadable Berdan brass. (non-P08) Pistols & Holsters. below. The common Russian name for the revolver, (nagan) became synonymous with the concept of the revolver in general and was applied to such weapons regardless of actual make or model. Can they be more than historic curiosities? More than likely, 98% of those markings are various inspectors' stamps. purposes. sights of the weapon. One of the mainstays of the milsurp market is a Nagant, but not the rifle. Sign up here to find out first about new shooting tips and articles, The Nagants 7.62x38R cartridge features a projectile seated deeper than youd see in a conventional, Once it was discovered that the revolver could be suppressed, it was used in that role, most notably by the KGB during the Cold War, and by Vietnamese guerrillas during the Vietnam War. Target loads ranged from 700fps to about 650fps. by tjtM38 Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:50 pm, Post I don't think there are a whole lot of 1915 Tula Nagants out there. In the Russian Federation, it was only retired from use with postal security service in 2003, and from bailiffs security service ( ) in 2009. And yet the 1895 Nagant remains popular for reasons other than its historic cachet. Some things like the sealing system and the transfer bar were ahead of their times. Back to the durability the features like mainspring made out of tractor leaf springs, the simple loading gate, and the generally rough nature of the gun made them incredibly long-lasting. Some of the pictures are not very clear but are the best I can do. But rather, its there to improve accuracy and decrease fouling. all. "Fast is fine, But accuracy is everything". by ffuries Tue Jun 16, 2020 3:59 am. Despite the advent of the more modern Soviet TT pistol, the M1895 remained in production and use throughout World War II. [12], The M1895 revolver was used extensively by the Russian Imperial Army and later by the Soviet Union after the Russian Revolution. The real legacy of the M1895 Nagant is its impressive durability. This Mossberg 26B bolt-action rifle in .22 caliber belonged to my dad, Robert Elmo Babington. Stalin famously brutalized his people, including his crippling purges of the Red Army officer corps in the 1930s. There are also a number of videos of people shooting the Nagant suppressed. During the earlier period, since 1919, Izhevsk used a "wheat with hammer and sickle" stamp on the barrel shank, receiver, and stock. While this eliminates the bulged/split/stuck cases experienced when using .32 S&W and .32 H&R, the gas seal that made the Nagant famous will still not fully function as the .32-20 is not long enough to protrude past the cylinder like the original Nagant ammunition. seen. If you want to subscribe to our monthly newsletter, please submit the form below. The original finish and lack of import marks distinguish this Nagant revolver from the vast majority . Whatever you have there, refurbished or revised, it is a very unique revolver. The Nagant 1895 revolver served on both sides. The Nagant M1895 was made in both single-action and double-action models before and during World War I; they are known colloquially as the Private's model and the Officers model, respectively. I just wanted to add that there has never been a better time to buy military surplus ammo for the 7.62x38r. It has a barrel length of 4 inches, and has four-groove rifling with a right hand twist. Not an answer to your question but I once owned a Smith & Wesson M&P in .38/200 that was literally covered in stampings. To go to a specific part of the weapon simply click on the desired section Fortunately, it turned out that the ejector rod was seldom necessary; Nagant chambers stay cleaner than those of any other revolver, and spent empties usually just fall out on their own as the cylinder turns. I'm hoping someone here will be able to point me in the right direction to learn and identify the markings on this very solid 1944 model. German: German Mfg. In retrospect, it actually made a lot of sense. The original military loads used approximately 100gr bullets at about 1100fps. Copyright Complaints: Please direct DMCA Takedown Notices to the registered agent: http://www.h6x.net/nagant_m1895_years_and_marks.htm, http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinRareNagant.htm, http://www.surplusrifle.com/pistolm1mble/index.asp, http://www.imssu.org/articles/The%2020revolver.pdf. Adolf Hitler stabbed Stalin in the back in June 1941, giving the Soviets a lot more to worry about than what sidearm their officers carried. Izhevsk in 1944, while the one on the bottom right was made in Tula in 1941. other looking into the chamber. I should warn you that these pages can take some time to Ivan had to be well into his eighties at the time and spoke with a heavy Romanian accent. When fired, the crimp expands into the forcing cone, completing the gas seal and ostensibly increasing muzzle velocity by approximately 75ft/s. // . picture to the right is what the sight picture of a Nagant revolver looks like if you were to This gun has a good finish looks lightly used for its age. 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