And Ive always thought tony was perfectly great as the show presenter, interested and fun, a joy to watch. We will miss Tony, Mick and Phil and the team. The Team had a comradery like that of an elite military unit. (3 different history channels, Discovery channel, Travel channel, Military channel, National Geographic channel the list goes on and on. Channel Four seem to be missing a trick that gthe BBC would have undoubtedly have profited from by issuing DVDs of the most important digs over the years. The programme has no need for eye candy, no need to try to attract yuppies: archaeology is like genealogy interest grows (although not exclusively) with age. It may also be heresy to say so, but I think many people who were interested more in the archaeology than the banter, found the relationship between Phil and Tony, to be past its sell by date. How about a petition to Channel 4 demanding its continuation? In 2003, I joined the amateur Biggar Archaeology Group which, among other achievements, discovered the oldest known archaeological site in Scotland. Strata indeed! As a lowyal Time Team viewer from Australia, I am devastated. thank god for the repeats. Thank you. Now, many dislike Tony as he is renowned to be a woke leftist with an attitude, but as a presenter, I thought he did magnificently well. Channel 4 manages to produce some really rubbish reality programmes to titivate the youthful masses it hopes to attract. Obliged to cut evaluation trenches to meet the deadlines of multi-million pound construction projects, the 1990s saw a surge in short-term excavation projects. Just a thought If anyone knows how to get up an on line partition, perhaps we could get enough signatures to make Ch4 sit up and take notice? At least we can watch past programmes on More 4 on on the On Demand. So why could it not continue on and evolve in 2013 ? Because the major players were all quite old, and as you will have heard age is the surest antidote to youthful energy. It must have been amazingly hard to pull together the locations, permits, and logistics, add the art, historical research, music and local involvement, let alone process the dig sites. This is true I dont go to bed without at least watching one episode I would too love to get involved but at 67 a bit too old. Start a letter writing campaign to bring it back. I completely agree with you Lauren. Not all of us want mindless reality TV that costs a few bob to present. If Channel 4 wish to cancel TT why not take it to another channel If jonathon Ross, Parky and Graham Norton can do it why not TT, No more Phil! On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. Sorry I dont know how to do this! The huge plus for archaeology in general has been the raising of the profile of a branch of science that prior to this program was the province of a fairly small group of people. I was sad to see Carenza leave and sad to hear of the death of Robin Bush. Their presentation skills are very good indeed and could develop even more if the programme continued (not with Channel 4 please); eg Tracey, Jimmy, Susannah, not to mention Raksha, Matt, Paul, Helen, John and Stuart, all of whom are young enough to take over from the elder statesmen who could still guest if they do choose to retire one day! It lost its way because of the producers. SAVE TIME TEAM, Closing in on 4,000 signatures already: http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/time-team-should-continue-on-tv.html, Hey guys just a quick update of a Article we have got up promoting the SAVE TIME TEAM Campaign. Mick, can I come work for you? The foregoing is an exhausting but entertaining read. Above all we learned something new in each programme , not the usual rehashed information served up in other one -off programmes on popular periods. Sir Tony I salute you and the team,its been a good innings! VALE Time Team, a wonderful Viking/ Roman pyre is burning and we are drinking ourselves to oblivion. I do not think that the British tourism board and channel 4 realize how much interest world wide their is in British history. What is the point of Channel 4, if not to do something different? I have watched Time Team over the years. I entirely agree with the article it was definately the loss of Mick and the two new ones that ryined it for me and I have always loved it!! We didnt do much history at school and we have all learned so much from TT. The explanation for the end of Time Team is that the people who run Channel 4 are all about 12 years old. Shows that actually ADD something GOOD to the mix. i believe everything has a lifespan, and that must include television shows. I had drawn him into the subject a few years after we married but I had the privilege of degree training. As it was said at the start, they had to change it and then when it all went wrong blame someone else. The UK is lucky that it has such a long history. Time team came back as a clear favourite, so for one of the national conferences we decided to contact Time Team so that Tony or one of the team could come along and give a talk. The way Phil, Mick, Tony and company have made an impact on my life, you have no idea. Many a critic was silenced by seeing the team in action. The meeting was followed by an email to archaeologists last year from Wildfire Television, which makes the programme. Thank goodness there is a myriad of viewers who appreciate the achievement of Time Team. . John Gater, Francis Pryor, Stewart Ainsworth, and Phil Harding. Here in South Africa we ahave been treated to some series and odd programs which I really enjoyed. In 2014. (But not, ever, I would agree, grinning totty!) The worst thing they did was sex it up. Some single episodes already . ABC altered the format marginally and called it At the Movies. Like others I would like to see somebody else either bringing it back or developing the format. I feel sure we havent heard the last either. Although I partly agree with Geoff Stelling regarding both the departure of Mick and sidelining Phil somewhat, I do think that the young archaeologists in this the last series show a great deal of promise (Jimmy, Tracey, Susannah, for example) and we are being unfair to their input to be so critical. It was my highlight of the week especially now i am disabled and dont leave the house very often. Phil annoys me at times, by always stealing the limelight when lesser mortals had done the hard graft,but, the highlights were when lesser mortals (IE Raksha, Matt or Ian) had exciting finds and were allowed to show.Victors drawings were more lively and thought provoking than the boring computer graphics.I will start to miss the programme in two years time, when we finally complete seies 20. Time Team (Collection 2) - 11-DVD Box Set : Tony Robinson, Phil Harding, John Gater, Stewart Ainsworth, Mick Aston, Victor Ambrus, Henry Chapman, Ian Powlesland, Matt . He has worked on a number of archaeological sites in Britain and abroad. Please bring back Time Team with Tony Robinson. Quod erat demonstrandum. Oh dear what a shame as its such a great program especially with Phil & ALL the team.I think their sense of humour is almost worth a show on its own.Anyway a big thank you for many interesting hours as a an armchair archeologist. It excited the viewers, gave a good history of The United Kingdom, and made one waiting for the next episode, all due to the enthusiasm and clever programming of the show. That executive was not recruited from the intellectual highbrow Channel 5 was he? Recently went to Jamestown where the 1st Time Team America was tapedthat was amazing. My youngest is 10 and has been a fan from as early as I can remember, he has his own dig at the bottom of our garden and a massive fossil collection. Interesting, in these days where we (oldies) are not responding to adverts as much as the supposed young and affluent to think of alternative crowd-sourcing models for financing programs that we like. Think again C4, as someone who is 40 years outside your target audience, all axing this program has done is make me switch channels, so demographically relevant or not you have simply lost another viewer and surely viewer numbers are more important than some misguided attempt to only appeal to a certain age group? I read a number of the same comments over and over here, and some are quite valid. Im sorry no-ones put in a word for the lovely Raksha always good-natured, hard working and incredibly knowledgeable. Hated that glamour woman simply the wrong feel.. Very, very sorry that management mis-handling killed it. Does Phil Harding have a PHD? Whichever fool(s) cut it, perhaps they are now also, goneso please bring Time Team back it was a great staple! Alarm bells began to ring for us when Mary-Anne appeared it seemed to coincide with a dumbing-down of the show. I do not know he was pretty good towards the end at his archeology. It is that dull and droll science of Archeology, which when one attends a lecture on the subject, or a program on television normally results in boredom, numbness, squirming, or easy sleep. The easy familiarity between the people on the programs has been such a contrast to the egos and prima donna attitudes you see in so many other programs. I will miss TT more than any other show I have ever watched and Im extremely disappointed that C4 have decided to axe a show that brought History into the hearts of so many people. I was devastated to hear of the demise of this wonderful programme, but once they made the decision to bring in the awful Mary Ann Ochota as a co-presenter, the programme was doomed. My dad worked for the National Park Service and I was born quite near Chaco Canyon[(a universally important archeological site) in a Navajo mission(Christian) hospital]. Many of us have watched Time Team for ages and have been educated (along with Tony) on the ins and outs of Archaeology and did not need another presenter to ask superfluous questions (nice though she was). Lets not overlook Public Broadcastng with its excellent programming, either). Now British television can be as dumbed down and offensive as American television has become. Best wishes to everyone ever involved with the show. Look at Lee Bradys comment 23rd Jan. Theres a link for a petition hes got started. TT had a great following here in Canada. It is sad to read the mechanics of its demise and, worse, to see it played out on screen. Thanks. It works when the product and the people who are involved are so good. For those people who wish to view old episodes back to day 1 surely all you need to do is put channel 4, possibly you may need to add UK.com, if overseas, into your search engine,register on line,confirm e mail address and then enter Time Team in the search box.You can even view Time Signs the original pilot series. He worked his sox off. This biographical article about a British archaeologist is a stub. They tried to make it edgy and the thing I loved about time team was its lack of edginess? He was an outstanding presenter for the show. Sadly,she passed away 2 years ago but before she went, she told me not to forget to watch TT. He joined the Royal Commission on the Historical Monuments of England (now part of English Heritage) in 1985, and is now head of its Landscape Investigation Team based in York, England. Real shame, feels like Ive lost my friends! Channel 4 has lost one viewer it wont get back. One of our students is well into his 70s, hes been in the field with us both on our formal field school and in a volunteering capacity. Time Team announces historic comeback with 2021 dig at huge Oxfordshire Roman villa that may be 'almost the size of Buckingham Palace'. Reason: we hardly spoke to each other and what we were watching on tv was hardly worthwhile. Much better than most of the rubbish we get now that there are so many channels chasing adverts & broadcasting ever increasing repeats. Suddenly Channel 4 was receptive to the idea of a major archaeology programme. To me time team brought all facets of history alive to the ordinary person. I liked the pictures Victor did on several shows which showed the principals in historical costumes. Channel 4 you need looking at!!! Were currently watching the series (2012?) Ive always adored darling Tony Robinson since his days as Baldric, and Mick (RIP), Phil (gotta love him!) It took off instantly and has been there going from strength to strength since 2004. Regards, Paul Tressel [emailprotected], Time Team was a massive part of my life, Im still watching it even now on more 4 :O. There is a market here to be tapped. Usually clad in a loud jumper, with his white hair blowing in the wind, Professor Aston was the shows site director who chose where to dig for the next historical discovery. "[3], As of 2010, Ainsworth has been affiliated with the history and archaeology department at the University of Chester, where he is a visiting professor.[4]. Found Time Team on You Tube. I know we have no Roman history, but there are thousands of of places that date back thousands of years. These are absolutely awesome! Time Team was the best program I have ever seen or hope to see. You talk rubbish mate! As late as season 18 the programme was pulling in a respectable audience of 1.1 million, partly because it had built up a loyal following, and partly because the team were still digging great sites. Shades of the quiz-show concept do survive into early episodes of Time Team proper. And, unlike Phil and Mick, one didnt long to give her a haircut!! Yes/No? Im retired now and would love to get involved in archeology at some level. I will think of you when I am digging in a field this afternoon, that you once dug, and bury a memento in your memory. Its interesting that Ch 4 is dropping a program on history and education, are they really dumbing down to suit a younger age group whose programs contain bad language smut and sex, bad attitudes and a large sense of self. He compared them to the reshuffle at the BBCs Countryfile in 2008, which introduced younger presenters and, he said, reduced it to clich-ridden pap. I hope its not the end of Time Team. Yes very sorry to see TT go, Sky at night still going both are just as important to us here on Earth and I think it will be missed in the future though the recordings are still available to evertbody but the forum is lost, Grrrr channel 4. Sad that time team is no longer , they should go back to how it all started , dont mess with what is ok . And the team. Watching how the team coalesce over time and their skills mature. It was not the first time that a chance conversation with Mick had got someone thinking about television archaeology. 17:30 EST 07 Feb 2012 Self - Deya, Mallorca, Spain (1998) . If Channel Four thinks TT too expensive there is mileage in the Return To format for some digs showing some of the original programmes and then updating on subsequent research. Spent time today discussing post-holes with a friend, others around thought we were crazy, but thats what Time Team was all about. In a nutshell, that is the most relevant comment I have read on here. I still enjoy my archaeology despite my age not being able to take part in the reality. Im tired of the idiots that run TV and Im ready for revolution.whos with me!!! Royal Commission on the Historical Monuments of England, Imagine spending an entire weekend with Time Team's Stewart Ainsworth Learning How to Decode the Landscape, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Stewart_Ainsworth&oldid=1140539218, People of the Royal Commission on the Historical Monuments of England, Short description is different from Wikidata, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0, This page was last edited on 20 February 2023, at 15:01. Good quality programmes do cost a little extra.Have watched the programme from the start and my 6 year old daughter did also and was entertained by TRs presentation, she can still imitate that enthusiastic burst of speed across a field whilst talking to camera. Channel 4 should never have discarded such a treasure. I would joke with my kids when doing some gardening that I might unearth a roman soldier or a roman coin. (especially phil, that crazy bloke,lol).I hope channel 4 regret the decision to axe the show. Surely a revamp, no helicopters, fewer paid staff, smaller archaeological objectives, involve communities more hence free labour would help. I download everything I can from the internet and watch on American PBS stations when I can find it. Have just watched the very last episode of my beloved Time Team And feel desperately sad.. So sad to see the demise of TT. NEVER. The old team are the best Mick, Phil, Tony et al.. think Channel 4 have made a HUGE mistake bet they wont listen to the public.. Just imagine all our Patreon subscribers sitting down to watch Time Team and thinking: We made this happen!. Admittedly, in the last year or so I have found myself increasingly disinterested in the programme. http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/time-team-should-continue-on-tv.html God, is there nothing for older viewers who actually like to think? Even after its star began to wane Time Team remained popular. I watched all but episode 1. I will be saddened to see Time Team go, but I agree that the production costs could realistically be reduced. Oh so true. Please bring it back with all the original cast the new ones where good but I preferred the old cast and format. I generally watch one episode a night, but on weekends I sometimes binge watch until my eyeballs beg for mercy. Discovered Time Team after visiting U.K. The first show of 1994 featured a young, dark, long-haired Tony The Wildman Baldric Robinson, with a equally younger long haired Mick Aston, some of which was not quite all grey. It is located on the Broughton Estate in Oxfordshire, belonging to the Fiennes family. As others have said, lets hope that the B.B.C. I cant help being captivated by the digs. An episode where a workplace expert was on stand by for structural shoring when common sense would have not wasted this kind of expense. You always felt a relationship with the team, they appeared friendly, very enthusiastic and appeared to be there for the love of archaeology. It was over when Mick went AWOL. BBCs own channels will have BBC prefixing the number and anything not by the BBC will obviously by without this prefix. Many of my friends would love to travel to the UK because of shows like Time Team and Escape to the country. There are only about a thousand signatures so far.Personally, although I have signed, I dont think it will do much good. There is nothing else like it on TV. What Time Team once was in the beginning will never be reproduced. Our investigation of the villa and the landscape it occupies will aim to preserve and enrich our understanding of the past and the people who inhabited it. After playing a critical role in many of Time Team's digs, from the caves of Cheddar to the jungles of Nevis, Mick . He was affectionately called Time Team's "lumps and bumps" man by Mick Aston, and works with the team alongside his day job, travelling the country surveying, recording and investigating archaeological sites. As a teacher of Ancient and Modern History in Australia, I found the T.T programs a wonderful way to back up the various topics I taught. xx. I have just realised that time team is to be axed by c4. Only problem is the core members are getting on a bit, so no chance of it going another 20 years. !I have just retired and it would be perfect NOW. what fools these youngsters are. The whole catering & accommodation aspect could have been trimmed, without loss of such a wonderful program. The Time Team go to the West Indies and the island of Nevis. But for me the real genius is Stewart who can look at a landscape and tell you what it was like hundreds of years ago. Archeology isnt aloof anymoreTT built a bridge between laymen and pros! Youve said it all, I totally agree! axed is their a petition running ????? In between programmes, E4 these days uses short clips of things like hillwalking and narrow boats to ridicule the interests of old people. ! I guess the nearest feeling to learning of its ending was like being told that your solid mates of the past twenty years are all splitting up and moving abroad. This segregates the viewers and leaves fans like me stuck in the middle and slightly upset at the notion that my favorite programmes have been taken over by people who havent got a idea. But TIME TEAM managed the impossible. Buggering about with scheduling times has buggered many a decent tv series. Im getting to the point at which I can glance at a find in a diggers hand and exclaim, Oh! I have not been watching the show for very long because it was not aired in the US as far as I know. I am devastated to hear about Mick Aston.. Victor Ambrus peerless ability to bring the past to life on the fly, for example, was harnassed after his artwork caught Tim Taylors eye in Readers Digest. Good riddance to Time Team; patronising in the extreme, and as for that prat Robinson leaping about a la Baldrick, reduced the entire thing to music hall. Incidentally, Mr Harding, this flygirl will gladly buy you a pint, any day and would love to hear stories about years of pulling history out of the ground one piece, one bone, and one shard at a time. C4, please bring back the previous and successful formatting of Time Team. Channel 4 obviously think we are all brain dead morons who need to watch the endless mind numbing soaps or the even more pathetic American rubbish that now dominates our screens. And there is still so much they can show and teach us. I am American and Time Team is my favorite program. A few years earlier Tony Robinson had joined a trip Mick was leading to Santorini as part of his adult education work for Bristol University. The implementation of Planning Policy Guidance 16 in 1990 enshrined archaeology within the development process and paved the way for todays professional units. It has become a staple in our family, even with the ABC running older series in high-rotation it beats the rest of the 6pm options hands down, even in repeat mode. I watch time team on more 4 This has to be one of the biggest tragedies of modern television times. Lets hope that somebody in control is also a fan and a compromise can be reached. It was so pathetic, TT definitely doesnt need to have its memory sullied by association with the puerile crassness of the modern C4. Hi Alan, thanks a lot for your reply very helpful. Come on BBC . Struck by how much could be learnt in a few hours, Tim wondered what could be achieved in a few days. there must be a law t They have onbly made a couple of mistakes, 1 was letting Mick go and the other was axing Time Team. That they were able to achieve what very few others were able to achieve and give a thirst to the man-in-the-street in what could be classed as a dry subject only adds weight to what they were able to achieve in such a fantastic way. Years earlier, Sir Mortimer Wheeler did some Archaeology pgms on TV and they were always popular. While Time Team unquestionably experienced problems, particularly in its final years, this much-loved show was an astonishing success, propelling modern archaeology into the public conscious as never before. I absolutely agree with everything you said ! I loved watching Time Team in Australia, way better than the American version. Well said and one hundred per cent agree. My absolute favorite TV program! Envelopes hidden at strategic points would set challenges along the lines of find the Medieval high street in two hours. Some of the regulars have retired, some have moved on to other things, a few have departed for Tr nan g or the Field of Reeds. I too wonder why they stopped it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The only thing that surprises me is that they didnt include a so called comedian. Also, the most recent posters may not have heard of Mick Astons premature death. It was supposed to be about archaeology. Great format, educational safe family viewing. Yes, that was a great one. very sad day in T V HISTORY. Series Producer and creator of Time Team, Tim Taylor says . I think Tony is a good fit for this program. Thanks to you all. 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